Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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In the fourth it seems that we have a racing certainty in Tiger Quest.White Whisper two lengths adrift in second.
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Not the easiest of cards but giving this a go...
Idiots (small!) E/W Patent
1:35 Vaal - Bold Flash
2:10 Vaal - Spitfire Run
2:50 Vaal - Soul Singer
Semi-idiots E/W Patent
2:50 Vaal - Chestnut Charger
3:25 Vaal - Stunning Jet
4:00 Vaal - Virginia Sound
E/W double
1:35 Vaal - Baluga
3:25 Vaal - Mystic Tigress
Adding for yankee
11:15 Vaal - Winter Star
12:25 Vaal - Pinstripe Miss
Add the two Marcus runners for bonus 5/6folds
Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
Idiots (small!) E/W Patent
1:35 Vaal - Bold Flash
2:10 Vaal - Spitfire Run
2:50 Vaal - Soul Singer
Semi-idiots E/W Patent
2:50 Vaal - Chestnut Charger
3:25 Vaal - Stunning Jet
4:00 Vaal - Virginia Sound
E/W double
1:35 Vaal - Baluga
3:25 Vaal - Mystic Tigress
Adding for yankee
11:15 Vaal - Winter Star
12:25 Vaal - Pinstripe Miss
Add the two Marcus runners for bonus 5/6folds
Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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SCRATCHINGS:
1 3 Breezed In Shin sore 14h09 13-MAY-13 T Peter
1 16 Winter Darling Reserve Runner 08h15 16-MAY-13 System
2 12 Time Bandit Under 12 days suspension 08h16 13-MAY-13 System
2 7 Fort Bellini Sore hamstring 09h47 15-MAY-13 Nicholas
3 15 New Religion Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
3 16 Jet For Joy Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
4 2 Show And Tell Ineligible (Winner Vaal Sand 09 May) 14h37 14-MAY-13 System
5 16 Sheri Baby Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
5 15 Wollondilly Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
7 16 Mass Destruction Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
7 15 Bezant Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
8 15 Heads Up Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
8 1 Black Flame Not eating up 08h29 16-MAY-13 Matthew
9 15 Olympia Beijing Stipes Permission ( N Daniels ) 07h33 16-MAY-13 L Kruger
9 6 True Imperium Lame near fore knee 14h00 13-MAY-13 Gavin
RESERVE RUNNERS:
JOCKEY CHANGES:
1 5 Enchanted Silk To Be Ridden By: R Danielson 08h30 16-MAY-13 Sean Tarry
1 15 Shout Out To Be Ridden By: R Fradd 14h11 13-MAY-13 G Woodruff
2 16 Muirfield To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h51 15-MAY-13 Jurgen van Heer
2 15 Updike To Be Ridden By: G Wrogemann 08h18 13-MAY-13 R Sage
2 5 Club Flag To Be Ridden By: K Zechner 08h35 16-MAY-13 Wallace Tolmay
3 1 Orlando Magic To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
4 3 Favourite Daughter To Be Ridden By: R Danielson 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
5 11 Princess Rue To Be Ridden By: ............... 13h58 13-MAY-13 R Shrives
5 12 Ink Heart To Be Ridden By: T Pretorius 07h46 16-MAY-13 Scott Kenny
6 12 Serissa To Be Ridden By: D S Lembethe 08h30 16-MAY-13 Sean Tarry
7 10 Time Signal To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
9 11 Bermuda Bowl To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 11h37 15-MAY-13 Stephen Moffatt
EQUIPMENT CHANGES:
2 8 My East My West Tongue Ties On 08h15 13-MAY-13 Dominic Zaki
3 9 Where Eagles Dare Blinkers Off 14h10 13-MAY-13 T Peter
6 1 Mirage Drive Steel Shoes On 08h13 14-MAY-13 T Zackey
9 2 Sunningdale Blinkers on 21h31 15-MAY-13 David Nieuwenhu
9 7 Madame Ming Blinkers On 13h29 09-MAY-13 P Matchett
OTHER CHANGES:
R Simons not riding (Injured) Shrives
UNRACED IN P6 AND JACKPOT:
Race No 4, No 11, Heart Of France
Weather:
@08h00: Fine, North Westerly Crosswind; @12h00: ; @16h00:
RAIN 24 HOURS: Nil, RAIN 7 DAYS: 4.5mm, PENETROMETER READING: 19
IRRIGATION 24 HOURS: Nil, IRRIGATION 7 DAYS: 6mm
TRACK CONDITION: Good, FALSE RAIL POSITION:
1 3 Breezed In Shin sore 14h09 13-MAY-13 T Peter
1 16 Winter Darling Reserve Runner 08h15 16-MAY-13 System
2 12 Time Bandit Under 12 days suspension 08h16 13-MAY-13 System
2 7 Fort Bellini Sore hamstring 09h47 15-MAY-13 Nicholas
3 15 New Religion Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
3 16 Jet For Joy Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
4 2 Show And Tell Ineligible (Winner Vaal Sand 09 May) 14h37 14-MAY-13 System
5 16 Sheri Baby Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
5 15 Wollondilly Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
7 16 Mass Destruction Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
7 15 Bezant Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
8 15 Heads Up Reserve Runner 08h16 16-MAY-13 System
8 1 Black Flame Not eating up 08h29 16-MAY-13 Matthew
9 15 Olympia Beijing Stipes Permission ( N Daniels ) 07h33 16-MAY-13 L Kruger
9 6 True Imperium Lame near fore knee 14h00 13-MAY-13 Gavin
RESERVE RUNNERS:
JOCKEY CHANGES:
1 5 Enchanted Silk To Be Ridden By: R Danielson 08h30 16-MAY-13 Sean Tarry
1 15 Shout Out To Be Ridden By: R Fradd 14h11 13-MAY-13 G Woodruff
2 16 Muirfield To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h51 15-MAY-13 Jurgen van Heer
2 15 Updike To Be Ridden By: G Wrogemann 08h18 13-MAY-13 R Sage
2 5 Club Flag To Be Ridden By: K Zechner 08h35 16-MAY-13 Wallace Tolmay
3 1 Orlando Magic To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
4 3 Favourite Daughter To Be Ridden By: R Danielson 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
5 11 Princess Rue To Be Ridden By: ............... 13h58 13-MAY-13 R Shrives
5 12 Ink Heart To Be Ridden By: T Pretorius 07h46 16-MAY-13 Scott Kenny
6 12 Serissa To Be Ridden By: D S Lembethe 08h30 16-MAY-13 Sean Tarry
7 10 Time Signal To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 09h17 16-MAY-13 P Matchett
9 11 Bermuda Bowl To Be Ridden By: F Herholdt 11h37 15-MAY-13 Stephen Moffatt
EQUIPMENT CHANGES:
2 8 My East My West Tongue Ties On 08h15 13-MAY-13 Dominic Zaki
3 9 Where Eagles Dare Blinkers Off 14h10 13-MAY-13 T Peter
6 1 Mirage Drive Steel Shoes On 08h13 14-MAY-13 T Zackey
9 2 Sunningdale Blinkers on 21h31 15-MAY-13 David Nieuwenhu
9 7 Madame Ming Blinkers On 13h29 09-MAY-13 P Matchett
OTHER CHANGES:
R Simons not riding (Injured) Shrives
UNRACED IN P6 AND JACKPOT:
Race No 4, No 11, Heart Of France
Weather:
@08h00: Fine, North Westerly Crosswind; @12h00: ; @16h00:
RAIN 24 HOURS: Nil, RAIN 7 DAYS: 4.5mm, PENETROMETER READING: 19
IRRIGATION 24 HOURS: Nil, IRRIGATION 7 DAYS: 6mm
TRACK CONDITION: Good, FALSE RAIL POSITION:
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Englander Wrote:
> Not the easiest of cards but giving this a go...
>
> Idiots (small!) E/W Patent
> 1:35 Vaal - Bold Flash
> 2:10 Vaal - Spitfire Run
> 2:50 Vaal - Soul Singer
>
> Semi-idiots E/W Patent
> 2:50 Vaal - Chestnut Charger
> 3:25 Vaal - Stunning Jet
> 4:00 Vaal - Virginia Sound
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> E/W double
> 1:35 Vaal - Baluga
> 3:25 Vaal - Mystic Tigress
> Adding for yankee
> 11:15 Vaal - Winter Star
> 12:25 Vaal - Pinstripe Miss
> Add the two Marcus runners for bonus 5/6folds
>
> Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
Thanks Englander, like these two.
> Not the easiest of cards but giving this a go...
>
> Idiots (small!) E/W Patent
> 1:35 Vaal - Bold Flash
> 2:10 Vaal - Spitfire Run
> 2:50 Vaal - Soul Singer
>
> Semi-idiots E/W Patent
> 2:50 Vaal - Chestnut Charger
> 3:25 Vaal - Stunning Jet
> 4:00 Vaal - Virginia Sound
>
> E/W double
> 1:35 Vaal - Baluga
> 3:25 Vaal - Mystic Tigress
> Adding for yankee
> 11:15 Vaal - Winter Star
> 12:25 Vaal - Pinstripe Miss
> Add the two Marcus runners for bonus 5/6folds
>
> Be(s)t of luck to all (tu)
Thanks Englander, like these two.
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Nice tough card today. Worked out my PA and then looked at the betting and saw my banker is at 6/1 :
, I either looked at the race wrong or Dark Knight is good EW value. My PA today for R1,800 play a %:
Leg 1: 1,2,13
Leg 2: 1,14
Leg 3: 1,2,4
Leg 4: 2,3,6,7,13
Leg 5: 1
Leg 6: 2,3,5,7
Leg 7: 3,4,5,8,9
Play well. (tu)

Leg 1: 1,2,13
Leg 2: 1,14
Leg 3: 1,2,4
Leg 4: 2,3,6,7,13
Leg 5: 1
Leg 6: 2,3,5,7
Leg 7: 3,4,5,8,9
Play well. (tu)
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Thanks Shrek i covered with Snappy Lad...
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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shrek Wrote:
> Nice tough card today. Worked out my PA and then
> looked at the betting and saw my banker is at 6/1
> :
, I either looked at the race wrong or Dark
> Knight is good EW value. My PA today for R1,800
> play a %:
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> Leg 1: 1,2,13
> Leg 2: 1,14
> Leg 3: 1,2,4
> Leg 4: 2,3,6,7,13
> Leg 5: 1
> Leg 6: 2,3,5,7
> Leg 7: 3,4,5,8,9
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> Play well. (tu)
Dark night worth an eachway nibble at 6/1 (tu) but is an open race. I reckon Sammy Silver a livewire over this C&D.
> Nice tough card today. Worked out my PA and then
> looked at the betting and saw my banker is at 6/1
> :

> Knight is good EW value. My PA today for R1,800
> play a %:
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> Leg 1: 1,2,13
> Leg 2: 1,14
> Leg 3: 1,2,4
> Leg 4: 2,3,6,7,13
> Leg 5: 1
> Leg 6: 2,3,5,7
> Leg 7: 3,4,5,8,9
>
> Play well. (tu)
Dark night worth an eachway nibble at 6/1 (tu) but is an open race. I reckon Sammy Silver a livewire over this C&D.
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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My money will be on Ink Heart and Gem of Dubai 7/2. four places.
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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All my / your selections today with VIVALDA tomorrow Race 6 Arlington.
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Thanks guy will take another PA coving with Snappy Lad and Sammy Silver, bankering Tiger Quest. (tu)
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Re: Re: Vaal Thursday 16/05/2013
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Very tough card - but most can see that
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Some 'value' thoughts (inside track, so maybe those inside draws could prove advantageous)
R1: Competitive, but Rebel Pose improved in blinkers, drawn on the inside and looks each way value to me at 12/1
R2: Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Marcus has come for the stable double - still way too short imo, so I'll stay out
R3: Can't believe that The Best Way is still being shown as a runner - ran in the last at Clwd yesterday :S; does seem a pretty open race, so I think load up
R4: 2nd leg of the Zaki / Marcus double - should win but again way too short imo - Tell My Star to improve over the 1000
R5: Fillies and mares handicap where the draw could play a part; Miss Cantona not bad value imo, but chances to a quite a few including It'sgottobeme (outside draw), Dazzling Moon (drawn 1), Jackie O (may improve on 2nd run up here), Vars Honour (long rest but Striker rides); imo Baluga may prefer 1200 and Stamford Bridge may need the run - Howhighcanufly can also feature if returning to her best form
R6: 2nd toughest race on the card imo - a lot depends on how good Money Grubber is, he may well be good enough to follow up, but if he fails, there's many waiting in the wings including Titano (should improve over this trip), Enchanted Guest, Antartic Call and Serissa (nothing much between them); best roughie imo Eastern Cobbler who has only won once on the turf, but prefers the firmer going and could surprise - imo all of Right To Tango, Carnaby Street and Pierneef are suspect over the trip
R7: Toughest race on the card where all runners except Foreign Reserve hold some sort of chance imo - top 3 for me are Master Entertainer (looking for this trip and not badly handicapped here imo), Sammy Silver (MR dropping and improving after rest) and Soul Singer; next best Bee Keeper (MR dropping, improving after rest and finding betting support and Suetan (out of a staying mare, so improvement possible over this trip)
R8: Slightly easier imo; I think this lies between 5 runners: Mystic Tigress (tough task off a 74 imo, but has been threatening to win), Warrior's Passion (improving 3 yr old, but seems held by Bibbety Bobbety and Stunning Jet) and Catraz (Striker rides)
R9: Not an easy race to close, but Nightingale Grey looks to have scope for improvement and should feature along with Duchess Trenton (disappointed last time when not given the best of rides,and may prefer the slightly shorter trip); best value imo lies with Virginia Sound (never finds betting support but has run well over this sort of trip); the de Kock pair can't be completely ignored (especially Tawakul, who might have needed her last run); imo Sunningdale needs more ground, but must be included in wider plays along with the Gray coupling.
Enjoy (tu)

Some 'value' thoughts (inside track, so maybe those inside draws could prove advantageous)
R1: Competitive, but Rebel Pose improved in blinkers, drawn on the inside and looks each way value to me at 12/1
R2: Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Marcus has come for the stable double - still way too short imo, so I'll stay out
R3: Can't believe that The Best Way is still being shown as a runner - ran in the last at Clwd yesterday :S; does seem a pretty open race, so I think load up
R4: 2nd leg of the Zaki / Marcus double - should win but again way too short imo - Tell My Star to improve over the 1000
R5: Fillies and mares handicap where the draw could play a part; Miss Cantona not bad value imo, but chances to a quite a few including It'sgottobeme (outside draw), Dazzling Moon (drawn 1), Jackie O (may improve on 2nd run up here), Vars Honour (long rest but Striker rides); imo Baluga may prefer 1200 and Stamford Bridge may need the run - Howhighcanufly can also feature if returning to her best form
R6: 2nd toughest race on the card imo - a lot depends on how good Money Grubber is, he may well be good enough to follow up, but if he fails, there's many waiting in the wings including Titano (should improve over this trip), Enchanted Guest, Antartic Call and Serissa (nothing much between them); best roughie imo Eastern Cobbler who has only won once on the turf, but prefers the firmer going and could surprise - imo all of Right To Tango, Carnaby Street and Pierneef are suspect over the trip
R7: Toughest race on the card where all runners except Foreign Reserve hold some sort of chance imo - top 3 for me are Master Entertainer (looking for this trip and not badly handicapped here imo), Sammy Silver (MR dropping and improving after rest) and Soul Singer; next best Bee Keeper (MR dropping, improving after rest and finding betting support and Suetan (out of a staying mare, so improvement possible over this trip)
R8: Slightly easier imo; I think this lies between 5 runners: Mystic Tigress (tough task off a 74 imo, but has been threatening to win), Warrior's Passion (improving 3 yr old, but seems held by Bibbety Bobbety and Stunning Jet) and Catraz (Striker rides)
R9: Not an easy race to close, but Nightingale Grey looks to have scope for improvement and should feature along with Duchess Trenton (disappointed last time when not given the best of rides,and may prefer the slightly shorter trip); best value imo lies with Virginia Sound (never finds betting support but has run well over this sort of trip); the de Kock pair can't be completely ignored (especially Tawakul, who might have needed her last run); imo Sunningdale needs more ground, but must be included in wider plays along with the Gray coupling.
Enjoy (tu)
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