Arlington 17/4/13

Sham Racing Wrote:

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> Bloodshot, used trainer as an example of an
> extreme case scenario because that is how extreme
> the problem is. Yes, all jockeys have caused
> interference at some time or other but not the
> amount of times this one does for little or no
> consequence.....


Just a question though - What do the other Jocks think about it? Years ago i recall a Jock being drunk and I think he rode one race and then the other Jocks asked the stipes to step in and he was stood down and I don't think he rode again -

Ok no problem with all your point of views that's what forums are for . But if this guy is that bad then A ) why do trainers give him rides ? And B ) how come he has not been stopped by the so called ( useless weak and inconsistent authorities ) who decides who is better? I for one have never ridden a horse and thank God for that it's hard enough to walk most days . But emotions get the better of many of us! I understand why you highlight the two scenarios but for me it is a really poor comparison . Just another question the two jocks concerned ? How many suspensions if any have either had ? And how many winners have either had ? And I have to say its your choice as an owner and trainer who you put on the horse!

Mr Hawaiii good question ! Clearly looking at facts here and statements made by many the jocks are no different to soccer or rugby pros they don't always agree and we have seen many onfield off field and jockey room incidents ? It would be good to hear their point of view! Let's be honest what we as punters have to say clearly is always put down to talking from the pocket ! But that pocket also hurts Trainers other Owners and some jocks so it really is a bad way of trying to argue .,sure many won't agree!

Not harping on the subject but a week suspension to jockey A who has 8 rides a meeting to jockey B who has 2 rides a meeting ....is this fair:S

Blouperd Wrote:

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> The Madji Wrote:
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> > {Waggles finger under Blouperds nose} I played
> > your jackpot but only took 1 - 8 in the second
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> Your R968 investment payed well , R3565.90 , 2,6K
> PROFIT , Baie mooi plakkies -DX(


Nee swaar.... ek kan nie R968 op 'n boerpot bekostig.... maar ek het 20% gekry (tu)

Len Sham Wrote:

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> Not harping on the subject but a week suspension
> to jockey A who has 8 rides a meeting to jockey B
> who has 2 rides a meeting ....is this fair:S


whose at the biggest disadvantage....

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> > Not harping on the subject but a week
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> > to jockey A who has 8 rides a meeting to jockey
> B
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sorry...I meant...who has the biggest penalty....?

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> > > Not harping on the subject but a week
> > suspension
> > > to jockey A who has 8 rides a meeting to
> jockey
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> > > who has 2 rides a meeting ....is this fair:S
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> sorry...I meant...who has the biggest penalty....?


If i have only 1 or 2 rides and ride like a cowboy to win its gonna cost me less financially as opposed to a jock who has a full card of rides and does not want a week off.....

Len...I hear what you say....but unless he has another income....his 2 rides are gonna cost him....just my opinion....I cannot judge because I have seen the race in question....but I think everyone has it hard....someone needs to mentor him...or take them under the wing and show him the wrongs of his doings....

Pirhobeta, we, as a stable have tried to help in ways. We have leant money for children, bought clothes for racing, bought groceries,given lifts to work by going 25 km out of the way only to be kicked in the teeth. Fellow jockeys have given money,lifts etc.This is not the only one....

Given up now on trying to talk these guys out of drinking their life away.

Sham Racing Wrote:

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> Pirhobeta, we, as a stable have tried to help in
> ways. We have leant money for children, bought
> clothes for racing, bought groceries,given lifts
> to work by going 25 km out of the way only to be
> kicked in the teeth. Fellow jockeys have given
> money,lifts etc.This is not the only one....
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> Given up now on trying to talk these guys out of
> drinking their life away.

You are good people

Sham Racing Wrote:

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> Given up now on trying to talk these guys out of
> drinking their life away.


Very sad state of affairs