Boks Vs All Blacks

Titch Wrote:

---

> Frodo Wrote:
>

---

>

---

> > We just need a little more imagination -
> sounding
> > like a stuck record - but get Sarel Pretorius
> in
> > at scrumhalf, Goosen at flyhalf, bring de Jongh
> in
> > at centre and Lambie or Frans Steyn at fullback
> -
> > and Brusseau at flank - I think we will beat
> the
> > Aussies in SA, and we have at least a 50/50
> chance
> > against the All Blacks
>
> (tu)(tu)(tu)

Meyer wiil never do that because they are not Blue Bulls, some of them is Cheetas and he do not like them, left the best Forward with the best record of turn a rounds @ the breakdowns at home Mr BRUSSOUW.

HIS FAVOURIYE SONS MORNE STEYN AND GREYLING COST US THE MATCH TODAY

Some of these rugby players have no or little brains, they can not think.

What they should do before they offer them a contract is to do a IQ test and pay them according to their IQ, to compensate for the mistakes he is going to make because he is stupid.
The problem is some of them will have to pay in to get a contract as they have no IQ .(

Well done Titch great call. I have always been a big Morne Steyn fan but enough is enough missing straight forward penalties just let the opposition off the hook the whole time.

We have got a revamped pack and they dominated up front. Meyer really needs to cleanout most of that backline. Morne Steyn and De Villiers are long past it. Move Frans Steyn to fullback. De Jong, Goosen, Jantjies and Lambie will make a big difference.

Bob it's whisky and not whiskey, changed your spell check to Scottish -D

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

---

> Titch Wrote:
>

---

>

---

> > Frodo Wrote:
> >
>

---

>
> >

---

> > > We just need a little more imagination -
> > sounding
> > > like a stuck record - but get Sarel Pretorius
> > in
> > > at scrumhalf, Goosen at flyhalf, bring de
> Jongh
> > in
> > > at centre and Lambie or Frans Steyn at
> fullback
> > -
> > > and Brusseau at flank - I think we will beat
> > the
> > > Aussies in SA, and we have at least a 50/50
> > chance
> > > against the All Blacks
> >
> > (tu)(tu)(tu)
>
> Meyer wiil never do that because they are not Blue
> Bulls, some of them is Cheetas and he do not like
> them, left the best Forward with the best record
> of turn a rounds @ the breakdowns at home Mr
> BRUSSOUW.
>
> HIS FAVOURIYE SONS MORNE STEYN AND GREYLING COST
> US THE MATCH TODAY
>
> Some of these rugby players have no or little
> brains, they can not think.
>
> What they should do before they offer them a
> contract is to do a IQ test and pay them according
> to their IQ, to compensate for the mistakes he is
> going to make because he is stupid.
> The problem is some of them will have to pay in to
> get a contract as they have no IQ .(

Both Brussouw and Pretorius was maar swak vanmiddag teen die Leeus

I really didn't think anyone could be worse than div but Meyer sure is trying his hardest!

Morne steyn hasn't been right for a long time but Meyer put himself in a corner by not dropping him weeks ago. He then didn't want to risk an inexperience flyhalf against the kiwis and it has bitten him in the arse. Why francois steyn wasnt entrusted with all the kicks is beyond me. The game plan executed by a dithering pienaar and out of sorts steyn is completely shunting whatever attacking ability we might have. Hougard has more chance of catching a cold on the wing the catching the ball from one of his team mates. The coach must take the blame as he selected these 2 passengers.

We've all known for a long time that Zane Kirchener is not test quality, the only value he had to add today was getting habana over for a try in the first 10 minutes, but he gave him a pass that my mother would have done better with. I could not understand why Meyer took the beast off, I thought the beast was having a cracker of a game. His replacement greyling isn't worth feeding on the display he gave today. I also question why he took strauss off when our line out was so solid. We all know Liebenberg has problems finding his jumpers and so it proved.

What concerns me is that the inevitable happened today but how is it that we knew this was bound to happen but Meyer did nothing about it.

We can't expect much from this current test side. With a captain of this calibre in the side what do you expect? Steyn, De Villiers, Pienaar, Kircher must go. De Villiers has NEVER won a cup with any side and never will. Bring on Taute, Goosen, Hougaard back to scrumhalf, and Lamby a must in any side.

Callatus Wrote:

---

> We can't expect much from this current test side.
> With a captain of this calibre in the side what do
> you expect? Steyn, De Villiers, Pienaar, Kircher
> must go. De Villiers has NEVER won a cup with any
> side and never will. Bring on Taute, Goosen,
> Hougaard back to scrumhalf, and Lamby a must in
> any side.


Thought it was a team/22 man game. Never been a De Villiers Lover but he never missed any kicks. Even with this out-dated Blue Bulls game-plan the Boks should have won. How good was Hougaard at Scrum-half against England, poor. The problem is at fly-half and inside centre, there is no creativity between them

It's very difficult, but the immediate changes have to be Pienaar out, Hougaardt to Scrummy, give Mvovo a chance on left wing. Steyn out and Goosen in.

We are missing Schalkie and Brussouw.......i know Brussouw never played well, but give him 2 or 3 games and he will be back to his very best.

We also need to make a big decision and get rid of De Villiers and give that young Sharks player a chance (his name escapes me right now), but he is strong and very fast.

Just my 5 cents worth today

Peekay, I thought Pienaar is the better scrumhalf of the 2. Lambie to come in at fullback with Goosen at flyhalf and I think you mean Paul Jordaan at centre? Very good player.

Craig Eudey Wrote:

---

> Peekay, I thought Pienaar is the better scrumhalf
> of the 2. Lambie to come in at fullback with
> Goosen at flyhalf and I think you mean Paul
> Jordaan at centre? Very good player.


Yes, that's him Craig thanks. He is a real talent and we need to make use of these guys now to let them get some experience. There are more up and coming youngsters in ALL positions and not only him, so we are not lacking. It's just a matter of when these selectors are going to wake up....it might be a while going on what has happened in the past. Are the current guys playing till the next world cup.....i freakin hope not, cos then we will have the same crap excuse after the next world cup that we are building for the following world cup......yawn, yawn.......it's all getting a little predictable and boring........almost like the bus that doesn't arrive at Flamingo <

When Pienaar first started out for the Boks he was a very exciting player.........why the change? It has to be the game plan and the way he is told to play. Why cant the players use their natural talent? If this is the case, then i agree, but if the way forward is still this silly kicking possession away tactics, then i will rather go with Hougaard........even better, i will actually choose the SA scrummie that plays for the Waratahs. Also same applies to Kirchner......if they ganna be defensive then keep Kirchner, but if not, then include Lambie rather........or even WP's Petersen. he likes to attack. But hey, i don't get paid millions for 4 years to keep taking critisism on the chin

Nobody said that being the Springbok coach is a walk in the park - and you can't please everyone - but surely if EVERY rugby analyst tells you that Morne Steyn is the problem, then chances are that they are right - so listen to the advice. That is the biggest problem in the side right now imo.

The 2nd biggest problem imo is the backrow combimation - and I agree Brussouw is not at his best right now, but we need to get a bit more speed and a little less bulk

The 3rd biggest problem imo is the centre pairing, they are too similar, so one must go and if you have Goosen, you don't need Frans Steyn for those long kicks; Paul Jordaan is injured ....... not sure how long it will be until he is back, and anyway I reckon de Jongh has to get a chance to prove himself

I also think that Pienaar and Kirshner are not ideal, but I can live with them - if we can solve the first 3 problems.