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1 year 4 months ago #728610 by Muhtiman
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.....Island race 2.....they have no 11 as a scratching....yet it is going to run.....irrespective where this horse runs.....the race should be declared nul and void as it is affecting the odds.....lets await the outcome.....CLOWNS.... :whistle:

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1 year 4 months ago - 1 year 4 months ago #728620 by Muhtiman
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.....sneaky f@ckers......they added the scratched horse way after the jump.....it showed up at R567.80 for a win......surely this is an outright fiddle..... :whistle: total odds manipulation...... :sick:

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1 year 4 months ago #728622 by Muhtiman
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Runners
Live Field
1 Biometric
2 It Doesn't Matter
3 Blunderbuss
4 Impressed
5 Afdeek (aus)
6 Captain Moss
7 Gstaad
8 He's Got Gears
9 Square The Circle
10 Very Vary
11 Red China
Odds
WIN PLACE
1.5.80 2.00
2.SCR SCR
3.41.10 7.70
4.12.30 2.60
5.5.90 2.50
6.8.10 2.00
7.2.80 1.20
8.65.30 10.30
9.4.00 1.60
10.14.80 2.60
11.567.80 0.00
Race Closed

Final Odds
.....well the tote is clearly complicit in direct odds manipulation by adding a mistakenly scratched horse back to the pool after the race is run....only because the horse did not run into the money....had it run into the frame.....then would they have been able to explain the odd dividend highlighted in bold print.....basically they are here caught red handed in opening a closed pool to make a post race amendment.....this is so very WRONG..... :angry:

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1 year 4 months ago - 1 year 4 months ago #728631 by Muhtiman
Muhtiman replied the topic: Here comes another tote stuff up
.....does any one here have the contact details of the gambling board.....I'd sincerely like to lay a complaint with them concerning this matter.....you tote oke's ....enough is enough....you are fragrantly breaking rules by manipulating the prospective odds by adding an excluded number back into the pool.....like a casino removing a few aces from a deck....or lotto adding extra numbered balls that dont appear on their selection sheet....the race should have been voided like all the other times they have made similar cock ups.....can't have it both ways.... :huh:

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1 year 4 months ago #728658 by Scolari
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1 year 4 months ago #728807 by johnnycomelately
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Is'nt this called daylight robbery?

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1 year 4 months ago #728814 by Muhtiman
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.....no this is badly managed people with no idea of the implications of such a gaming fraud....the fact that there was a win dividend (if no money was wagered then there would be like the place dividend and reflect as 00 ....even after the horse was added) this also means that some small money was wagered on it....now how does one have a chance to place such a wager when no one else could..... :whistle:

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1 year 4 months ago #728839 by smashley
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This isn't the first time and probably will not be the last time the tote makes such stuff ups. I remember sending emails a year or 2 ago and not even a reply from them. Good luck. I placed an exacta bet in the UK and they posted the incorrect numbers and it went all clear! (they swopped the 2nd and 3rd around). This obviously affected the payouts of exactas, trifectas and quartets. I assume someone else must have complained about the problem as it was eventually rectified a good few hours later and my account was adjusted accordingly. Not even a response to my email though or a public apology, shame on them. There was even no excuse in this case as results can be verified on multiple UK Sites such as Attheraces, Racingpost etc. Someone must be held accountable for such negligence :angry:

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1 year 4 months ago #728843 by Muhtiman
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....we catch them at it regularly.....they mostly have since defaulted to declaring race nil and void....because legally this is supposed to protect them because they make a refund and do not receive any benefit....so no harm no foul.....then there are times where the staff who may be afraid that if an error is made they may finally be held accountable.....they simply try cover it up as mug punters are normally none the wiser.....so no one got hurt yesterday....we only lost a minor fraction of our pay out dividends as the added horse that did not have almost any money wagered on it as it was not able to have been bet on simply diluted the pools.....and the final payout is marginally reduced... by not declaring the race nil and void they profited by getting their take out ....they need to be made an example of....and the gambling board needs to have them investigated and then set down hard and fast rules and fines for contravention of the rules... :huh:

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1 year 4 months ago #728887 by Mossel
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Its called organized crime

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1 year 4 months ago #729216 by durbs
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Penrith race 3 today.The winner,number 4 De Santa Anna,was 5-1 fixed odds and paid 5-90 on the Australian Tote(we play into their pools) yet it paid R68-50 on our tote and the double(races 2&3)only paid R14-30.And now race 5 the winner was 8-1 and R9-80 on the Australian tote and pays R2-30 here.How can they explain that?Went to look at the win/place dividends for race 3 and mysteriously it it not there.Another one I picked up was race 4 where it shows the winner paying R1-90 yet the results shows it paid R1.This looks extremely dodgy to me.

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1 year 4 months ago #729225 by Muhtiman
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.....we must have lost the co-mingling link.....and only our pool was counted.....happens almost every day....Tuesday I wanted to play in Belmont Aus.....they had it up on the betting portal....but failed to link with Ozzie pools.....so they scrapped the betting into this venue entirely..... :(

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1 year 4 months ago #729330 by TNaicker
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Are tickets being added / removed after the result is known? :( :unsure:

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1 year 4 months ago #729563 by Muhtiman
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...who knows...but if pools are able to be opened after they have closed....sure to be mighty tempting to have a dip.....have been told that the tote has had a very high staff turn over in recent times....mainly the IT eggspurts...... :oops:

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1 year 4 months ago #729598 by TNaicker
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Muhtiman wrote: ...who knows...but if pools are able to be opened after they have closed....sure to be mighty tempting to have a dip.....have been told that the tote has had a very high staff turn over in recent times....mainly the IT eggspurts...... :oops:


Maybe there has been some fiddling and things have been kept quiet with people asked to walk quietly...can't trust the tote as too many R1 returns for wins and places...why take the risk of betting into a pool when a late cancellation of ticket/s or sudden surge in bets or after-race addition of tickets can substantially alter the final payouts ? :( :unsure:

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1 year 4 months ago #729644 by Bob Brogan
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1 year 4 months ago #729650 by Muhtiman
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.....hey diddle diddle.....and they continue to fiddle.....made no progress with the gambling boards
.....got the royal run around.....National board referred me to Gauteng board.....which is an absolute waste of time.....there seems to be a rather incestuous relationship between Gauteng board the operator and their cohorts....they will make hay....long after the sun stops shining.... :S

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1 month 6 days ago #770878 by Muhtiman
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.....bump

....this old chestnut but still relevant to tote recent cock ups again....also one has little to no recourse with trying to report them gambling board as they give one the total run around especially if you having a go at the operator.....:huh:

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2 weeks 5 days ago #772114 by durbs
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No Terang and Canberra betting available on Tabgold.
The bookies are offering the doubles on those meetings so how will they know how much to payout if the tote are not even giving the results?

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2 weeks 5 days ago - 2 weeks 5 days ago #772117 by durbs
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Tabgold haven't even got those meetings listed but tabonline have and theses are the results.....
Tuesday 01 October 2019
TERANG
RACE RESULT PAYOUT STATUS
1
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
2
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
DB 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
3
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
DB 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
4
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
DB 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
5
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
DB 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
6
WN 0.00
PL 0.00
EX 0.00
DB 0.00
OFFICIAL

SCR: Nil
TF:
Bookies paid out on Terang but not sure where they got their dividends from.
And remember we only on race 3 now.
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