Open letter from Mark Sham - RE: NHRA

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3 months 3 weeks ago #774502 by oscar
I wonder if the parties that manage horse racing in SA realize that if they carry on “ business as usual” the sport will run out of money? Many peoples lives in SA rely on the money however small it may be. I read a lot and keep up to date especially with growing industries and countries and it is clear that horse racing in the East is on the up. Challenge me if you disagree. Horse racing in the East is strict.. as SA was initially.. owners are vetted heavily before they allowed colors to race.. don’t pay your bills they will take you down..tote only no open bets.. there are strict rules which are acted upon not funny grey areas where things are left to interpretation. It has been clear to me for many years that the view racing authorities in SA take on their role (including the RA) is to stay as far away from confrontation as possible. Whether that is due to people’s constitutional rights in SA is a strong possibility. Personally my view is that a standard contract needs to be drawn up by the RA who is represented to protect owners and trainers rights in horse racing as well as managing the stakes pot. I know very well they won’t do it and are clear that they have nothing to do with that.. however some form of disciplinary action has to be available for either an owner or trainer who fall foul of their responsibilities.
What if a trainer refuses to pay a groom? Where does the groom find protection?
What if an owner doesn’t pay the trainer for food and water for his horse to stay alive? Where does the horse find protection if the trainer stops feeding it.
If horses are not fed then they are deemed to be neglected.. who are the first people to take action against the trainer who’s horses are not given water or food. Would the management of racing take action against the trainer? Or just leave the horses to die of starvation because the owner has not paid?
Owner doesn’t pay = horse doesn’t get food = NHRA does what??
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3 months 3 weeks ago #774533 by Bob Brogan
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3 months 3 weeks ago #774543 by louisg
I still do think, though, that the RA needs to step up, so too our Trainers Association. Let's just start with a basic code of conduct for Owners and Trainers. Let's take it further, with a contract between Owners and Trainers, which includes the obligations of both.

We need Owners and Trainers membership to MEAN something, again, like it used to.

The Owners Association should have a list of approved Trainers...and a list of complaints from Owners, re Trainers, which they forward to the Trainers Association for follow up.

The Trainers Association should have a "Confidential to Trainers" list of reported poor payers, with details, which is reported to the Owners Association, who in turn follow it up with those Owners.

The thing is, that yes, NHA must do something, but so must we all. Let's first get our house in order and then we have every right to take it to NHA to get their buy in.
You see, if you have 30 horses in the yard and the Owners of 10 horses do not pay, ALL of the horses in the yard suffer in some way or another. Standards drop, right across the board. That means that the horses of the good Owners, who have been top class payers are also subjected to the lowering of standards in the yard. And an Owners Association can surely not condone that. Nor can a Trainers Association...

Just my opinions, after reading Oscar's thought provoking post.
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2 months 3 weeks ago #777040 by Bob Brogan
From Mark Sham ...

Mr Moodley says we not treated like "Mushrooms "

This goes back to 29 Oct 2019 .Not a single word from either Mr Hyde or Mr Moodley

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2 months 3 weeks ago #777049 by Mark Sham
Louis, I haven’t had any response or reply from NHA to any of my queries. I completed my survey and requested a meeting with Mr Moodley and Mr Hyde only to be told basically that it’s not their problem. I have added this to the AGM agenda for discussion.

Please understand Im not asking them to be debt collectors only to stick to their rules as published and not look for any excuse to get out of it. We need to find a drastic way to reverse the process that both you and Oscar are referring to. You have the right idea about RA and trainers association but when our governing body can’t uphold its rules and constitution how do you think any other body will be able to when NHA just pushes the problems to the side.

The NHA is in their own words “under resourced” but why? Because the whole industry is filling apart and they are blind to it.

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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #777072 by louisg
Mark
I fully understand the situation and I am in your corner.

As per my previous post, but in other words, the following are my opinions -

One might ask what the RA has done about this ? Is Mr X a RA member ? If yes, then surely RA must try and assist, by contacting the Owner etc.

If no, then surely because they have a code of conduct for their members, they will support you anyway, as Mr X is an Owner who is being allowed to continue Racing normally, whilst not paying service providers, whilst all RA members, in turn, have to abide by the rules of RA and have to pay their Service Providers.

But, why blame the RA, when KZN does not have an Owners Association and when the majority of SA Owners are not RA members ? The RA is not a National body.

What about the Operators ? When a Trainer gets behind, his noms are blocked. The very same Mr.X probably owes Trainers plenty. Surely Operators understand that by not blocking this specific Owner, they will end up blocking a hapless Trainer, whose other good paying Owners will also now suffer, because of Mr.X. But, the Operators wont do it, because like NHRA, they will only do something if National Bodies put pressure on them.

And then there is the Trainers Association, who should act on behalf of the Trainer, when a Trainer is owed money. (In Mr X's case the plainant is New Turf and not a Trainer, though). But, right now, none of the Regions other than KZN have a properly registered Trainers Association. The National Trainers Association is about to get started but 4 of the 5 Regions do not have a properly registered Regional Trainers Association. Think about it....When KZN put pressure on NHRA, it's a Region that is putting pressure and NHRA will, quite rightly, reply that the other Regions are not complaining.

To me, a sizable portion of the many problems facing the Industry stems from the relevant bodies not being National and not having proper and honourable structures in place and not being National bodies. And a National Service Providers body should also be formed...


And these proper and honourable structures must include codes of conduct and must apply to all - Owners, Trainers, Jockeys, Grooms, Service Providers, including Racing's own Directors and Management.

The word "honourable" stands out...as does the fact that when all National bodies in Racing agree on an issue like this, NHRA will have to act.
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