It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

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It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago - 1 year 7 months ago
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Reading a post on Soccer 6/10/13 turnovers got me thinking about how poor 4racing are.

- Assets that were profitable were sold and the dinosaur that is the tote was kept.
- An ineligible Chairperson was appointed and embarrassingly for them had to be terminated
- Their CEO ticks all the right BEE boxes but has added zero value from what is on show
- What has Colin Gordon brought to the table since his appointment?
- Charles Savage does this as a hobby and it shows
- Under-performing, overpaid key personnel have been retained and no new blood has entered the arena.
- 4Racing TV is miles behind Gallop in terms of quality and content despite having a substantially higher budget.
- Out of season Highveld stakes are on par with PE and the lowest in the country
- In season stakes are static
- We now proudly have non race days in 4Q Country
- Many Gr3 races are now run as Condition Plates, some at level weights
- Tote turnover is a mystery and I have no doubt the public are being excluded from the facts for a good reason
- The programme is mainly unchanged

I have to ask - What exactly have they introduced that is different to what they inherited? The answer is nothing and its no wonder the results show this.

Compare this to the juggernaut that is Bortz and Cape Racing and my advice is to admit defeat, do what is best for SA Racing, and hand over the reigns to Hollywood and let's get Joburg racing up and running again.

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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.....there will be no white flags while there is still money in the pot.....:unsure:

.....sounds a bit like the DIDO tune......:dry:

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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OTA,

There will be no hoisting of the white flag as 4Q has no opposition. Imho 4Q is being bludgeoned into submission, unknowingly by themselves.

Token BEE has not worked for Phumelela 2.0 – The Chair barely lasted 6 months and well the less said about the CEO, the better. When you allow the master to control you, enjoy the slide down the slippery slope.

Token WEE has also not worked for Phumelela 2.0 – The initiatives that include 4Q TV, Racing Today and the COO did not help the cause.

It’s time for the BIG FIVE to give us Phumelela 2.1?

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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Greg Bortz is the answer.

A man with a finance brain and an entrepreneur at heart.

He is the only one who can consolidate racing and take us forward and ably assisted by Hollywood.
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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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......I envisage a scenario where 4Q Racing will be no longer able to sustain the required revenue they plan to derive from the tote pools due to the inability to attract or retain customers.....and when this is evident they will then seek further funding.....by this time Cape Racing has recovered and is flourishing and the donors will want to grow this approach and instead pledge their further investment to those that have been far more successful....:whistle:

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1 year 7 months ago
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4Q made 2 fatal errors - The first of which was not ridding itself of the Phum dead wood. The second is thinking that bringing in newbies with no knowledge or understanding of the business will be a winning move.

Phum 2.0 would have had a greater chance of rising like the phoenix under the control of the dead wood than Fundi & Watson.

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.....4Q racing has made many more mistakes....but the biggest one is believing that they were the be all and end all of racing....and would never be challenged then simply fell back on their laurels....job well done got the moola and Phum mentality of doing nothing other than uprooting the media broadcasting from Rivonia to a better view of Kyalami race track ...and at a far greater expense than staying put....then started scrambling when their media broadcasting was not up to snuff and they had little to show for their spend....but the biggest shock was the challenge to their arrogance in believing that they had Cape Racing between a rock and a hard place.....the shoe will soon be on the other foot....:whistle:

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1 year 7 months ago
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muhtiman,

"believing that they were the be all and end all of racing"

Savage, Riley, Smith and de Kock were patting each other on their backs as to how great this conquest was for every man and his bitch in horse racing. With the effluxion of time the warts and all are starting to show like a crater outside my RDP dwelling.

It was unclear whether Savage dropped his mates to position himself for all the glory or whether his Big 5 mates abandoned him!!!

RA (now ROA) employees reportedly witnessed a screaming match between Riley and Savage in the RA corridors where Riley expressed his displeasure of being left behind by Savage to carry the can at the failing RA. Now evidenced by the conspicuous absence of the Big Five and their very own BEE token who made a run for it b4 her spouse, the 4 Cuckoo BEE Chairman.

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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A sad state of affairs.

Agree with OTA, 4Racing need to hand over the reigns to Hollywood and get Joburg racing up and running again, for me personally my favourite punting region.

Someone should catch a wake up in JHB and smell the turf!!

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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......@Ash2ash.....screaming matches at the RA were once a very common occurrence so the staff there must be pretty immune to that sort of conduct.....but one cannot blame all of those that were co-opted to help win MOD's trust and form 4Q racing.....I too was very relieved and at the time believed that racing would soon be on the mend..... however look what they have not done....and it has become all too obvious that it is being run like a church fete again

......I have far more confidence in those people that put their own money where their mouths are.....over those that try to speak with other peoples money.....:blink:

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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Serious question here not taking the piss

Have there been any changes that have improved racing for the participants since 4Q took over?

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Re: It's time to hoist the white flag 4Racing

1 year 7 months ago
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This show is over with Savage as the puppet master. He brought in puppets in key positions to control every aspect of the business. He is the kingpin that Mary funded.

His protégés (puppets) Fundi, Watson and Gordon are walking around looking bleak awaiting their master to announce day zero. Almost every single initiative of theirs has failed, some spectacularly. The bully tactics have earned them a few tight bitch slaps from GC, CR, NHA, HWB and this list goes on….with the final one to come from Mary.
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